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10:55 am
February 4, 2011
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sheila
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In facebook GiantSquid mentioned in passing that a movie feeler dropped because of how dark his stories are. Good luck to him, I don't know how good of deals authors can negotiate to get money from those types of things. hopefully a lot.
meanwhile, it is fun to imagine scenes and settings.
I would be disappointed if the director and script writers adapted Siri as an odd non-neurotypical character. All of the other characters on the ship should be odd, not Siri. Siri should be the most normal.
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11:11 am
February 4, 2011
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sheila said:
In facebook GiantSquid mentioned in passing that a movie feeler dropped because of how dark his stories are. Good luck to him, I don't know how good of deals authors can negotiate to get money from those types of things. hopefully a lot.
meanwhile, it is fun to imagine scenes and settings.
I would be disappointed if the director and script writers adapted Siri as an odd non-neurotypical character. All of the other characters on the ship should be odd, not Siri. Siri should be the most normal.
Who should play him?
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5:06 pm
February 4, 2011
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sheila
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Hljothlegur said:
sheila said:
In facebook GiantSquid mentioned in passing that a movie feeler dropped because of how dark his stories are. Good luck to him, I don't know how good of deals authors can negotiate to get money from those types of things. hopefully a lot.
meanwhile, it is fun to imagine scenes and settings.
I would be disappointed if the director and script writers adapted Siri as an odd non-neurotypical character. All of the other characters on the ship should be odd, not Siri. Siri should be the most normal.
Who should play him?
Somone on facebook mentioned Sunshine, and I will say I loved that movie despite its flaws. and I love Cillian Murphy in almost everything I've seen him. but I don't know that I'd cast him on any part.
But I don't have an opinion on actors. I enjoy more thinking about how whoever would play the parts should behave and what the scenery should look like than about figuring out who should be in it.
maybe should get some Eastern European or Russian director.
ha, one of the dogme guys. oh ha, that guy who makes all the fucking depressing films. seeing a dogme style film in a science fiction setting would be rather against dogme, I think. so they should try it. it might make the film work and at a low budget.
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5:09 pm
February 4, 2011
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sheila
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95 read the manifesto. No genre films and "Temporal and geographical alienation are forbidden (that is to say that the film takes place here and now).". so fuck that. but take inspiration from some of the styles…
I'm not sure how you'd go about doing it. I think maybe I will day dream about it later.
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6:03 am
February 5, 2011
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Post edited 6:38 am – February 5, 2011 by Andrea_A
sheila said:
maybe should get some Eastern European or Russian director.
ha, one of the dogme guys. oh ha, that guy who makes all the fucking depressing films. seeing a dogme style film in a science fiction setting would be rather against dogme, I think. so they should try it. it might make the film work and at a low budget.
I'd been thinking of Wolfgang Petersen, though then "Blindsight" might become a remake of "Das Boot". But maybe he would be able to preserve the psychological deepness.
Apropos low budget: First i'd been thinking about Roland Emmerich (but he'd been even more tainted by Hollywood). His first movie "The Noah's Ark Principle" had been produced with about 600,000 USD — in a closed washing machine factory near Stuttgart and sold to 20 countries afterwards. Not too bad for a graduate of a film school …
By the way … what about a classical Japanese anime version?
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2:51 pm
February 5, 2011
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sheila
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Wow, it really is like a submarine movie in some aspects.
I don't know Roland Emmerich, I will have to look that up.
for anime, I don't know. the neotenized faces wouldn't be good. but are those in classic anime? I am ignorant. I guess not in Akira, huh?
So, I just saw this very funny thread in metafilter on "what if" such and such director filmed the superbowl. One commenter says, "I want to see the one done by Guillermo del Toro, where a giant spider with human mouths for eyes descends onto the field, destroys the quarterback, and sets up a web between the goalposts."
Maybe Guillermo del Toro would be a good call. He did Spanish Civil war in Pans Labyrinth.
…much as I'd like to imagine scenes from Blindsight as a movie, my usual take on film adaptations is that you can't ever do a whole novel. but short stories work. or maybe someone would have to pick sections out of the novel to play like a tone poem.
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2:54 pm
February 5, 2011
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Post edited 2:55 pm – February 5, 2011 by sheila
What would you guys pick from the novel to stand as pieces in a movie?
Would you want to show the society the characters come from? Would you chose to show Siri's parents interacting? Show the hacking that people do on their identities? Siri's girlfriend? the fireflies? how society reacts? how much time to spend on each and how fast can you go?
(on edit: duh, I guess I thought Siri's brain too obvious to mention… but yeah, that would be something to detail)
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5:50 pm
February 5, 2011
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Post edited 5:58 pm – February 5, 2011 by Andrea_A
sheila said:
for anime, I don't know. the neotenized faces wouldn't be good. but are those in classic anime? I am ignorant. I guess not in Akira, huh?
Not so extremely in adult anime. And I see the enlarged eyes as typical stylistic feature. There's an interesting summary about Anime on "Telepolis" (via Google translate): http://translate.google.de/tra…..8%2F1.html
Maybe Guillermo del Toro would be a good call. He did Spanish Civil war in Pans Labyrinth.
Dang! Another movie I recorded on my VDR and never found time to watch. Will take the DVD out of my archive.
…much as I'd like to imagine scenes from Blindsight as a movie, my usual take on film adaptations is that you can't ever do a whole novel. but short stories work. or maybe someone would have to pick sections out of the novel to play like a tone poem.
An example for the short story: "Air Raid/Millenium" by John Varley (later expanded to novel).
For picking out sections: Peter S. Beagle wrote both the novel and screen-play of "The Last Unicorn". And the author knew best how to preserve the core of the story.
And in my opinion a movie based on a novel is rather an add-on or teaser … not a replacement for reading the book.
I cannot imagine "Jasmine Fitzgerald" as a movie — but on stage. Maybe "The Island", too. Two actors, the Chimp as voice from the Off, maybe a beamer for the special effects …
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1:17 pm
February 6, 2011
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sheila
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Andrea_A said:
sheila said:
for anime, I don't know. the neotenized faces wouldn't be good. but are those in classic anime? I am ignorant. I guess not in Akira, huh?
Not so extremely in adult anime. And I see the enlarged eyes as typical stylistic feature. There's an interesting summary about Anime on "Telepolis" (via Google translate): http://translate.google.de/tra…..8%2F1.html
That was a good read even though I couldn't follow everything from the automatic translation. I have seen many of the shows they mention, reminding me of examples to think of with less than "cute" faces.
Maybe Guillermo del Toro would be a good call. He did Spanish Civil war in Pans Labyrinth.
Dang! Another movie I recorded on my VDR and never found time to watch. Will take the DVD out of my archive.
Definitely. and in this you see him move from the normal to the bizarre, frightening, beautiful. In Blindsight there are normal parts (normal from a science fiction point of view of life?) to the very different. Since del Toro was able to pull off Pans Labyrinth, he could do it.
…much as I'd like to imagine scenes from Blindsight as a movie, my usual take on film adaptations is that you can't ever do a whole novel. but short stories work. or maybe someone would have to pick sections out of the novel to play like a tone poem.
An example for the short story: "Air Raid/Millenium" by John Varley (later expanded to novel).
For picking out sections: Peter S. Beagle wrote both the novel and screen-play of "The Last Unicorn". And the author knew best how to preserve the core of the story.
And in my opinion a movie based on a novel is rather an add-on or teaser … not a replacement for reading the book.
I cannot imagine "Jasmine Fitzgerald" as a movie — but on stage. Maybe "The Island", too. Two actors, the Chimp as voice from the Off, maybe a beamer for the special effects …
I like your ideas.
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1:41 pm
February 9, 2011
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Post edited 1:47 pm – February 9, 2011 by Hljothlegur
NO ANIME OF WATTS NOVELS PLZ
Also, for a second there it scanned as Benicio del Toro, and I was seeing him directing and starring in Bllindsight, ricocheted around Theseus as a giant meaty Siri Keaton, and the mental image was disorienting.
Keaton looks small to medium to me, as the child he never reallly ceased to be, observing the grown-ups at work, blown about by events. Then again, seeing George Clooney in Solaris was also disorienting.
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4:08 pm
February 10, 2011
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Andrea_A
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Hljothlegur said:
NO ANIME OF WATTS NOVELS PLZ
No Anime or no animated film at all?
Sadly the Japanese are nearly the only ones making animated films for adults nowadays …
Well, I would have preferred René Laloux, but he's dead. "La Planète Sauvage" (Fantastic Planet) is really art (though the end is somewhat crappy). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
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4:16 pm
February 10, 2011
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sheila
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Waking Life and A Scanner Darkly are two animated adult films. I'm not sure I buy that the style could be used for Blindsight but would like to see experiments where people try to implement the style. twould be interesting.
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10:24 pm
February 10, 2011
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Andrea_A
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Didn't know about "Waking Life". But this animation technique is used in "Mars", too. Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check them out.
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11:23 am
February 11, 2011
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sheila
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Andrea_A said:
Didn't know about "Waking Life". But this animation technique is used in "Mars", too. Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check them out.
I like Scanner Darkly* better than Waking Life, btw in general I love Linklater's films.
* based on novel by PKD that is one of my favorites of his.
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3:28 pm
February 13, 2011
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Andrea_A
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Hljothlegur said:
Keaton looks small to medium to me, as the child he never reallly ceased to be, observing the grown-ups at work, blown about by events. Then again, seeing George Clooney in Solaris was also disorienting.
Well, private "Solaris Double Feature" this weekend. Not been directly disappointed about the remake, but I think it's got a too normal science fiction film. Clooney … a little bit too athletic. And an American movie has to have a happy end …
In my opinion Andrei Tarkovsky's version stays somewhat closer to the novel and shows the Inner Space with expressive pictures (partly shot in B&W). And his Kris Kelvin (Donatas Banionis) maybe would have been a candidate for playing Siri Keaton (or a similar character, maybe a couple of years younger).
Re-read Solaris last summer … but compared to "Blindsight" pure Valium.
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